tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7635278160656788667.post9013295806862731035..comments2023-11-04T03:26:55.521-07:00Comments on A Wizard's Kiss: The Prestige Class in Old-School D&DWill B.http://www.blogger.com/profile/08203472570108282161noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7635278160656788667.post-9308967060850520992012-07-05T08:25:36.699-07:002012-07-05T08:25:36.699-07:00This is good stuff. I'll have to try making a ...This is good stuff. I'll have to try making a few of these.<br /><br />(BTW, if you ever get a chance to share your experience with my illusionist for lotfp, I'd love to hear about it!)Santahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01977863395278912279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7635278160656788667.post-12105563288620565782012-07-05T05:59:39.762-07:002012-07-05T05:59:39.762-07:00I have been thinking about almost the same thing. ...I have been thinking about almost the same thing. I want to make a B/X version of Planescape and use Vornheim inspired rules for Sigil. But things like planars, primes, petitioners and factions would almost certainly be Prestige Class like. Well, the 3ps would be closer to templates and the factions would be prestige class like. Any way good post. Definitely adding you to my read list.ghostofmarxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03459993621982295715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7635278160656788667.post-40780215677751843582012-07-05T05:59:37.726-07:002012-07-05T05:59:37.726-07:00Yeah, I looked up Glantri and that's pretty mu...Yeah, I looked up Glantri and that's pretty much what I'm talking about. I especially love the bit about having to duel the High Master to take his/her place. Those kinds of drawbacks or requirements are much more interesting than just "spend this much XP, and you must have this much of stat x". Though I suppose they also require a lot more effort to make them work.Will B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08203472570108282161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7635278160656788667.post-21204386853167514182012-07-05T05:49:45.834-07:002012-07-05T05:49:45.834-07:00@wrathofzombie, I'm cool with 'paladin'...@wrathofzombie, I'm cool with 'paladin' being a prestige class. As soon as I'd read about prestige classes (which was after reading the <i>Player's Handbook</i>) my first thought was "so why isn't paladin a prestige class? It bloody well should be".Keith Davieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08411665536982769550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7635278160656788667.post-10923478162932279402012-07-05T05:13:37.772-07:002012-07-05T05:13:37.772-07:00That how I do it, more or less! There are no XP to...That how I do it, more or less! There are no XP to pay, however, but usually in-game restrictions like the paladin code or monk asceticism. There's more in the first part of <a href="http://www.emacswiki.org/alex/2012-06-19_Alignment%2c_Paladins" rel="nofollow">this blog post</a> or <a href="http://www.emacswiki.org/alex/2011-12-20_Magic_Without_Spells" rel="nofollow">here</a> where I talk about "magic without spells" since I was thinking of these abilities as spell-like abilities, mostly.Alex Schroederhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17104864340940538702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7635278160656788667.post-12695972892253128552012-07-05T04:51:22.529-07:002012-07-05T04:51:22.529-07:00Very cool. This mirrors some of my own thoughts o...Very cool. This mirrors some of my own thoughts on how to handle such things in a OSR environment. <br /><br />Prestige classes usually are clunky because you have to plan before hand (usually) and/or they add a bunch of new abilities/mechanics that tend to not come in to play.<br /><br />The way I look at it is the prestige class, as Haarald says, should be done through the PC actively pursuing it in game (who would have thunk)and learning and getting involved etc.<br /><br />As far as class mechanics I usually limit it to 3-4 abilities that the player gets at the beginning and scale as the player levels..<br /><br />Example (and I know some people would argue about this being a prestige class)<br /><br />Paladin: Go through whatever steps the GM feels appropriate to become part of this elite/holy/self-righteous order.<br /><br />Abilities: Detect Evil<br />Immune to Disease<br />Aura of Courage<br />Smite Evil 1x/daywrathofzombiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04882740795203687573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7635278160656788667.post-75647338118251479482012-07-05T04:36:18.603-07:002012-07-05T04:36:18.603-07:00The Glantri Gazetteer has prestige class like stuf...The Glantri Gazetteer has prestige class like stuff for Wizards, which requires you to a) find a sponsor (since they're tied to secret societies), b) spend time and money for research/training, c) experience points that can't be spent on leveling (i.e., they are funneled away), d) fend of competition for others who want to become high master of the given secret society. There are different "Circles" (Ranks) you can achieve, which give you more and better abilities. These abilities differ by secret society and work differently.<br /><br />So, all you mentioned above is covered. This is great!oliofhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11283548524872576839noreply@blogger.com